Output basal drag and effective pressure

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Output basal drag and effective pressure

Postby MTrevers » 09 Aug 2017, 21:44

My problem ought to have a fairly straightforward solution.

The Friction_Coulomb function calculates the basal drag (BDrag) and effective pressure (Ne). I'd simply like to be able to output these values into my .vtu files. Could somebody please show me how this is done?

.sif file attached, it's pretty standard.

Thanks
Matt
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Re: Output basal drag and effective pressure

Postby MTrevers » 11 Aug 2017, 22:37

I've tried the following...

Under the body forces (BF3 refers to the basal boundary):
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Body Force 3
  Zb Accumulation = Real 0.0e0
  BDrag = Variable Coordinate 2
    Real Procedure "ElmerIceUSF" "SlidCoef_Contact"
End


Then, a new solver:
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Solver 11
  Exec Solver = Always
  Equation = Result Output
  Procedure = "ResultOutputSolve" "ResultOutputSolver"

  Vtu Format = Logical True
!  Exported Variable 1 = BDrag
  Vector Field 1 = String BDrag
!  Scalar Field 1 = String Ne
End


I get the following when I run it:
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WARNING:: WriteVtuXMLFile: Nonexistent variable: bdrag
WARNING:: WriteVtuFile: Are there really no scalars or vectors?


Plus a set of vtus/case0001.pvtu which contains the mesh but no variable values. Is someone able to explain what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks
Matt
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Re: Output basal drag and effective pressure

Postby tzwinger » 23 Aug 2017, 09:26

Hi Matt,

as I see it, there are three misunderstandings here:
1) SlidCoeff_Contact is a user function that would deliver you (based on grounding line dynamics) the corresponding sliding coefficient on the bedrock (you can switch the "Coulomb"-law in there). Hence, the BDrag value would be a scalar, rather than a vector and it would not contain the drag itself, but only the sliding coefficient
2) In view of the first issue, applying SlidCoeff_Contact in the body-force does not make sense to me. You also seem to not have declared BDrag as a variable somewhere else (preferably in a Solver executed on bedrock)
3) The effective pressure in SlidCoeff_Contact is either something you prescribe or is computed from the "External Pressure" (given in BC) and the Cauchy Stress tensor at the surface (see: http://elmerice.elmerfem.org/wiki/doku. ... ns:contact)

In order to resolve your problem, you should apply the sliding law, as is, and write out the computed the Stress (http://elmerice.elmerfem.org/wiki/doku. ... ers:stress); in fact, as you give the suffix .vtu in the post-processing file name in Simulation section, you do not need Solver 11. As you additionally export the surface normal (http://elmerice.elmerfem.org/wiki/doku. ... ers:normal), you can - for instance in ParaView - very easily compute the drag on the surface (you project stress tensor into normal direction and take the tangential part of the resulting vector)

Regards,

Thomas
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Re: Output basal drag and effective pressure

Postby MTrevers » 28 Aug 2017, 22:12

Thanks Thomas!
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